Coach Mark Gottfried interviews Thurl Bailey about his journey at NC State and their 1983 national championship. Bailey discusses the uncertainty following Coach Sloan's departure and how Coach Valvano's charismatic leadership and vision for a championship united the team. The conversation also covers Bailey's NBA career, the influence of legendary figures like Michael Jordan and John Stockton, and how college basketball has evolved. This episode offers an inspiring look at leadership, trust, and the pursuit of greatness in sports.